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Notapor admin » Mié Sep 15, 2010 11:01 am

Arnold como te va con tus acciones?
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Notapor El_Diez » Mié Sep 15, 2010 11:13 am

admin escribió:Justo discutiamos eso anoche en la clase. Dos cosas podrian pasar la primera en un super rally por la intervencion del Fed, la segunda una caida por la verificacion de que la economia esta hasta las patas. Considerando que se vienen las elecciones, que el Dow Jones parece estar en franca recuperacion en estas semanas me inclino por la primera opcion, un buen rally no nos caeria nada mal.

Ojo que hay otros factores tambien a considerar.

Yo opino que sucederá la segunda opción
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Notapor Arnold » Mié Sep 15, 2010 11:25 am

admin escribió:Arnold como te va con tus acciones?

Bien Admin, testeando el sector financiero y haciendo day trade con algunas acciones
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Notapor admin » Mié Sep 15, 2010 11:37 am

Good.
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Notapor admin » Mié Sep 15, 2010 11:49 am

Que bien andan las petroleras.
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Notapor admin » Mié Sep 15, 2010 11:51 am

Pimco hace una apuesta de $8.1 billones de que US no tendra la decada perdida a la Japonesa por la deflation.

Pimco Makes $8.1 Billion Bet Against `Lost Decade' of Deflation
By Miles Weiss - Sep 15, 2010 12:01 AM ET

Bill Gross, co-chief investment officer of Pacific Investment Management Co. Photographer: Tim Boyle/Bloomberg

Play VideoSept. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Mohamed El-Erian, chief executive officer of Pacific Investment Management Co., talks about Japan's intervention in the foreign-exchange market to weaken the yen. El-Erian, speaking with Tom Keene and Ken Prewitt on Bloomberg Radio's "Bloomberg Surveillance," also discusses the ineffectiveness of economic policies. (This is an excerpt. Source: Bloomberg)
Bill Gross’s Pacific Investment Management Co. made an $8.1 billion wager that the U.S. won’t suffer a decade of deflation like the one that crippled Japan starting in the 1990s.

That’s the notional value of long-term derivative contracts tied to the U.S. consumer price index that Pimco’s mutual funds entered into during the first half of this year, according to a regulatory filing. The funds received $70.5 million in up-front premiums under these contracts, known as inflation floors, in return for agreeing to pay investors should prices decline in the 10 years ending in 2020.

“We think the possibility that the U.S. goes 10 years with stagnant or falling prices is remote,” Mihir Worah, the head of Pimco’s real return portfolio management team, said in an e- mailed response to questions. “The options were priced at rich levels to the underlying” risk, added Worah, whose funds invest in Treasury inflation protected securities.

The cost of protecting against deflation has doubled since January as signs of an economic slowdown in the U.S. prompted investors including Canadian insurer Fairfax Financial Holdings Ltd. to buy the derivatives. James Bullard, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, said the U.S. could suffer the same type of economic malaise as Japan. Pimco Chief Executive Officer Mohamed El-Erian said last month the chance of deflation in the U.S. is around 25 percent.

‘New Normal’

El-Erian has been among the most outspoken proponents of a theory forecasting years of below-average economic growth, elevated unemployment and a decreasing dominance of the U.S. in the global economy. While falling prices are not his main scenario in that outlook, named “new normal,” El-Erian has argued that increased fear of deflation may have been one reason for recent sell-offs in financial markets such as the 2.8 percent decline in the Standard & Poor’s 500 on Aug. 11.

Pimco disclosed in a June filing that its funds began writing 10-year inflation floors during March and reported last month that they issued additional contracts in April. According to the Aug. 27 filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, 25 Pimco funds entered into these inflation floors during this year’s first half, with Gross’s $247.9 billion Pimco Total Return fund accounting for $6.57 billion of the $8.1 billion total.

Premiums from the contracts help boost fund income as yields on government bonds are near record lows. Potential losses are limited because the fixed-income securities that account for a majority of the $1.1 trillion the Newport Beach, California, firm oversees would probably gain in value if consumer prices had a protracted decline.

‘High-Severity Outcome’

“Falling or lower inflation than we have today on a steady basis is the bond market’s greatest friend,” said David Ader, the head of government bond strategy at CRT Capital Group LLC, a Stamford, Connecticut, broker-dealer. “First and foremost, it would make government debt very valuable, because you know they will pay you back.”

Inflation floors, structured as options on the consumer price index for all urban consumers, are similar to insurance. The buyer of the contract pays a premium at the outset in return for the right to receive a payment after 10 years should the CPI decline during this period, according to D’Arcy Miell, global head of inflation products at BGC Partners LP, a New York-based inter-dealer broker.

The size of the payment would be calculated by multiplying the cumulative percentage decline in the consumer price index with the face value or ‘notional’ amount of the contracts, said Mark Greenwood, head of inflation options in the London office of Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc.

Pimco’s Wager

In Pimco’s case, a cumulative 10 percent decline in the price index over 10 years would require the funds to pay out a total of about $810 million, based on that formula. The funds would pay nothing to the counterparties and keep the premiums if prices in 2020 are equal to or higher than in December 2009 or January 2010, depending on the contracts.

“This is obviously a very low-frequency, high-severity event,” Greenwood said. “Investors fear deflation, but most ascribe a low probability to it.”

Worah said Pimco’s inflation floors are “analogous” to the $36 billion of equity index put options that Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. has on major stock market indexes, including the S&P 500. Berkshire received $4.9 billion in derivative premiums in return for agreeing to make payments to the counterparties, starting in 2018, if the stock indexes are lower than when the contracts were signed.

Deflation Fear

With U.S. unemployment stuck near 10 percent and consumer prices rising just 1.2 percent for the 12 months ended in July, investors have been seeking financial products that would protect their holdings from deflation. Canadian insurer Fairfax Financial Holdings said in July that it bought 10-year contracts tied to consumer price indexes with a face value of $21.5 billion in this year’s first half.

The price of 10-year inflation floors has risen to 146 basis points, or 1.46 percent of the face value of each contract, from an average of 78 basis points in March and as little as 42 basis points in October, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Pimco on average received about 87 basis points, according to the premiums reported in its filing. Premiums on 10-year inflation floors equaled about 108 basis points at June 30.

“We have seen tremendous growth since the end of last year, less so in inflation caps and more so in floors,” said Allan Levin, head of structured rates for North America at Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. in New York. “It reflects an increasing fear of deflation.”

‘Lost Decade’

As recently as April, Pimco’s Worah wrote that inflation, not deflation, was the primary long-term concern in the U.S., given that the federal government could choose to address widening budget deficits by devaluing the dollar. Scott Mather, Pimco’s head of global portfolio management, wrote in August that the odds had increased of the U.S. suffering a Japanese- style “lost decade.”

“If you have inflation going down toward zero, you enter a new regime where expectations can become a self-fulfilling prophecy,” Mather said in an interview. “That is what we saw in Japan as well,” he said, referring to an era of declining real estate and equity prices that began in the early 1990s.

While the derivative contracts suggest that deflation fears have increased, the risk of deflation in the U.S. is lower than it was in Japan because the two countries have different currency policies, said Donald Ratajczak, an economic consultant and former director of the Economic Forecasting Center at Georgia State University.

‘Bad Bet’

Japanese deflation stems from government policies to maintain the value of the yen that depleted the money supply there, said Ratajczak, who won acclaim from the Boston Federal Reserve Bank for his inflation forecast in the 1990s.

“We don’t care as much about our dollar,” said Ratajczak. “People who are betting on ten years of deflation are making a bad bet.”

Wall Street dealers write derivative contracts for clients that want to bet on or protect their holdings from changes in interest rates, commodities, stock prices and other financial markets. The dealers can then keep the contracts, sell some of them to other Wall Street firms through the inter-dealer market, or find counterparties such as Pimco that will take the other side of the trade.

The value of inflation floors traded between dealers doubled to $3 billion in the first half of this year, from $1.5 billion for all of 2009, according to Miell at BGC Partners. That’s a fraction of the $21.5 billion Fairfax Financial bought.

Buffett’s Model

Fairfax, based in Toronto, sells insurance and invests the premiums it receives in out-of-favor securities, similar to Buffett’s investment model. Equities are more at risk from deflation than fixed income securities such as the Treasury bonds Pimco holds in its funds, and which gain in value as interest rates decline.

Given the size of the inflation floors bought by Fairfax Financial, Pimco may have taken the other side on some of them, said Greenwood.

Paul Rivett, Fairfax Financial’s chief legal officer, declined to comment on the counterparties to the contracts.

“We are very concerned about deflation and have put this trade on to hedge some of what we see as a not insignificant risk,” Rivett said in an e-mail. “Unfortunately, we have not publicly disclosed the inner mechanics of the trade.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Miles Weiss in Washington at mweiss@bloomberg.net
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PIMCO es el mutual fund de bonos mas grande del mundo. El es mutual fund mas grande del mundo. Punto.

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Canada
INDEX VALUE CHANGE % CHANGE TIME
S&P/TSX COMPOSITE INDEX 12,128.29 -64.69 -0.53% 12:39
S&P/TSX EQUITY INDEX 12,610.83 -70.96 -0.56% 12:39
S&P/TSX 60 INDEX 704.52 -4.14 -0.58% 12:39
S&P/TSX VENTURE COMP IDX 1,623.08 0.88 0.05% 12:39

Mexico
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MEXICO IPC INDEX 32,960.43 -97.57 -0.30% 12:18
MEXICO INMEX INDEX 1,890.37 -4.88 -0.26% 12:18
MEXICO IMC30 INDEX 466.48 1.76 0.38% 12:18
MSE TOTAL RETURN INDEX 38,667.85 -114.47 -0.30% 12:18

Panama
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Bolsa de Panama General 257.12 1.59 0.62% 09/14

Argentina
INDEX VALUE CHANGE % CHANGE TIME
ARGENTINA MERVAL INDEX 2,444.03 1.20 0.05% 12:18
ARGENTINA BURCAP INDEX 8,619.98 -28.24 -0.33% 12:18
M.AR MERVAL ARGENTINA IX 1,956.25 3.95 0.20% 12:18
INDICE BOLSA GENERAL 135,528.30 -317.39 -0.23% 12:18

Brazil
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BRAZIL BOVESPA INDEX 67,738.44 46.59 0.07% 12:38
BRAZIL IBrX INDEX 21,053.63 -58.71 -0.28% 12:24
BRAZIL ELECTRIC.ENRGY IX 25,659.81 -20.68 -0.08% 12:24
BRAZIL TELECOM INDEX 1,360.17 3.55 0.26% 12:24
BRAZIL CORP GOV INDEX 7,191.43 -2.54 -0.04% 12:24
BRAZIL VAL/BOV 2 TIER IX 5,894.51 13.58 0.23% 12:24
BRAZIL IBrX-50 INDEX 9,152.49 -30.01 -0.33% 12:24

Chile
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CHILE STOCK MKT SELECT 4,799.24 -1.59 -0.03% 12:38
CHILE STOCK MKT GENERAL 22,472.09 4.14 0.02% 12:38
CHILE INTER-10 INDEX 5,777.95 -12.66 -0.22% 12:38
CHILE 65 INDEX 3,321.01 12.23 0.37% 12:22
CHILE LARGE CAP INDEX 3,232.75 10.50 0.33% 12:22
CHILE SMALL CAP INDEX 4,254.57 39.68 0.94% 12:19

Venezuela
INDEX VALUE CHANGE % CHANGE TIME
VENEZUELA STOCK MKT INDX 65,313.40 -110.81 -0.17% 12:24

Peru
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PERU LIMA GENERAL INDEX 16,572.32 50.09 0.30% 12:23
PERU LIMA SELECTIVE INDX 24,648.10 6.10 0.02% 12:23
PERU 15 SELECTIVE INDEX 29,054.48 7.19 0.02% 12:23

Colombia
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COLOMBIA COLCAP INDEX 1,701.80 -1.31 -0.08% 12:18
COLOMBIA COL20 INDEX 1,374.29 -1.19 -0.09% 12:18
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Copper September 15,12:49
Bid/Ask 3.4325 - 3.4370
Change -0.0023 -0.07%
Low/High 3.4071 - 3.4506
Charts

Nickel September 15,12:49
Bid/Ask 10.5060 - 10.5513
Change -0.0688 -0.65%
Low/High 10.3926 - 10.6836
Charts

Aluminum September 15,12:49
Bid/Ask 0.9499 - 0.9544
Change +0.0000 +0.00%
Low/High 0.9431 - 0.9590
Charts

Zinc September 15,12:52
Bid/Ask 0.9575 - 0.9621
Change -0.0124 -1.28%
Low/High 0.9507 - 0.9790
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Lead September 15,12:49
Bid/Ask 0.9900 - 0.9945
Change -0.0064 -0.64%
Low/High 0.9786 - 1.0032
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Los futures del cobre estan por pasar al alza.
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VIX up 22.52

OIl down 75.64

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Notapor admin » Mié Sep 15, 2010 12:33 pm

Shiller: la politica fiscal no esta funcionado, el publico esta furioso.
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